How to Reach Someone Who Doesn’t Want to Learn?

For most of the last 25 summers, I have volunteered as a tour guide in the historic district of Philadelphia as part of the Independence Historical Trust’s Twilight Tour program. I started doing it in my much younger days as a way to get out and do something different upon my move back East following the fizzling out of my newspaper career. While I’m not as introverted as Derek (or at least, I wasn’t back then), being in the spotlight isn’t necessarily something that comes naturally to me, so leading these historical tours has been a good way to do something that makes me uncomfortable. Yes, there are still times when I’m walking to the start of the tour and quietly wishing, “Please don’t let anyone show up tonight so I can just go home without having to talk to anyone,” but yet, once I get going, I’m usually OK.

Over the years, I have developed a number of ways to connect with a fairly diverse audience. Many weeks, the audience will include foreigners who know nothing about the founding of our country (sadly, many Americans fall into this boat too), kids who are being dragged along by mom and dad, visitors who are only there because they have an hour to kill and the buildings are all closed for the day, and everything in between. I’ve managed to strike up conversations with all kinds of interesting people from interesting places, and can confidently say my life would be very, very different if I hadn’t taken up the challenge of being a tour guide in the first place (it’s where I met my wife – not the “Meet Cute”  story you hear every day).

We’re a little more than halfway through the current touring season. The tours run every night from mid-May through the middle of September – I will typically do one tour a week. By now, I have my script down pretty cold. Year after year, I walk the same route through the park, tell a lot of the same stories, and rely on a lot of the same jokes (“I would tell you about all that the state of New Jersey contributed to the history of our great nation… but I wouldn’t want to waste 30 seconds of your time” works week after week, year after year) (note from Derek: I laughed.) I’ll throw in a few new tidbits that I’ve learned each year just to keep myself engaged, but I would bet 75% of the material I share today is the same material I started with 25 years ago. History is history after all – people, places, and dates don’t change.

After doing these tours for so long, you’d think that every week would be more or less the same, but that is absolutely not true. Every group that comes along with me has a different vibe. Sometimes, things come easily – I get into a good rhythm with my storytelling, I know the answers to the questions people ask, and I can see on the faces of my audience that they are paying attention and seem interested in what I am saying (this is the best feeling of all). But then there are the weeks when I lose people, either because it’s too hot, they are too tired, or I am just boring them to death (this is the worst feeling of all).

Let me briefly illustrate.

THE BAD: I had one tour in early June that was perhaps my worst in a decade. There was only one woman who showed up – she was a librarian from Puerto Rico who didn’t speak or understand much English (and she was wearing a mask, so I could barely hear what she was trying to say). Since my Spanish petered out in high school, I was stuck trying my best to share information with her in English that she may or may not have understood, about a topic she may or may not have cared anything about. I could tell about 10 minutes in that she wanted to leave, but she probably felt bad because no one else had shown up for the evening. So, we both persevered as we walked through the park for an hour. I did my best to keep up appearances, but I skipped certain anecdotes and probably got some names and dates wrong because I just wanted to be done with it. I have actually given some really good tours to group of 1 or 2 people over the years — this happens maybe once or twice each summer – but this one was just awful. I was admittedly a bit dejected afterward.

THE GOOD: Let’s contrast this with last week’s tour, where amongst about a dozen or so people on the tour was a family from Los Angeles. They were on their way home from a 6-week whirlwind trip throughout Asia and Europe and had taken an Uber into Philadelphia during a 5-hour layover because they wanted to “do something besides just sit in the airport.”  Well, mom and dad wanted to do something. Their 10-year-old daughter looked exhausted and was totally disinterested at the start of the tour. I usually don’t engage much with family members who seem like they are being dragged along, but since it wasn’t a large tour group, I made an effort early on to connect with this girl. I don’t even remember how it started – I asked her some question about someone’s name and she guessed with clear disinterest, “John.” Well, the answer wasn’t John. But wouldn’t you know, there was someone named John at my next stop that I talked about (hatmaker John Thompson), and then another John right around the corner (Commodore John Barry), and then another (Colonel John Nixon), and then another (John Todd), and another (John Adams). Every time I came to a story about one of these men, I paused to let this girl tell everyone what their first name absolutely, positively had to be. She seemed mildly amused the first time this happened, but then she started to get excited. By the second or third “John” story, I had managed to hook this girl who only wanted to go home 20 minutes ago in a completely unplanned and unrehearsed manner. I eventually ran out of Johns to talk about, but the whole group had a good laugh when I cued up my comedy partner near the end of the tour and gave her the Family Feud buzzer when, alas, my story was about Bishop William White. When the tour was over, she came up and shook my hand before hopping into an Uber to head back to the airport. “That was fun,” she said. It’s one of my favorite compliments I’ve ever had.

In the CME world, we are all educators. If you’ve been in this field for any length of time, you’ve seen faculty who are able to make connections with their audience and those who simply fall flat. The materials undoubtedly matter, but you can give two faculty an identical slide deck with the same data and see very different results. Heck, I have seen the very same faculty with the very same educational materials give presentations on consecutive evenings and witness wildly different levels of interest. Sometimes, you just get an audience of “librarians from Puerto Rico” who are only there for the free food or because they need the credits. They are impossible to engage. Sometimes, you get people who really, truly want to learn and who come with lots of really good questions. They are easy to engage. But then sometimes you get those people who are there after a long day at work and need that hook to bring them into the education. If you can find faculty who are able to reel those sorts of people in, those are the ones who you want to invite back again.

A CMEpalooza side note: On my historic tours, my unique schtick is that I ask trivia questions and give away money for the correct answers. Because Derek and I also like trivia and giving away money, we debuted CMEpalooza Trivia night last September during the Alliance Industry Summit (AIS). Since the first year was so much fun, we were invited by the AIS powers-that-be to bring it back in 2025. We’re happy to announce that Year 2 of CMEpalooza Trivia Night will be happening from 6-7:30 pm on Tuesday, Sept. 9, at the Hilton at Penn’s Landing in Philadelphia. There will be trivia (some CME related, some not), some prizes ($500 up for grabs), and perhaps a few jokes as well. More details coming later, but if you are going to be at AIS (or if you live nearby and want to sneak in – shh, we won’t tell), please come join us. Lastly, a huge thank you to our friends at AcademicCME for sponsoring this year’s CMEpalooza Trivia night!

Making the Mundane Magnificent: The CMEpalooza Fall 2025 Agenda

An argument can be made that Robert Caro – author of The Power Broker and the four volume The Years of Lyndon Johnson – is the greatest biographer, if not greatest writer of nonfiction, of the past century. The Power Broker celebrated its 50th anniversary in print in 2024, including a special exhibit at the New York Historical Society (if you hurry, you can still visit. The exhibit closes the first week in August. It’s well worth the trip.). Meanwhile, the literary world eagerly (and somewhat nervously) awaits the fifth and final volume of The Years of Lyndon Johnson, which the 89-year-old Caro is still writing and for which he has not yet announced a release date.

There are many aspects of Caro’s writing that elevate him to the pantheon of “great”: his turn-every-page style of investigative journalism, the type of immense dedication to understanding his subjects that he willingly moves from NYC to the Hill Country of Texas to better comprehend the environment around LBJ’s formative childhood years. But for me, the reason I read anything Caro writes is his ability to make even the most mundane topics fascinating.

The Power Broker is a 1,300-page tome (and only limited to 1,300 pages because that was the maximum number of pages that could be bound in a single volume) about early-20th century urban planning in NYC and the man who made it all happen (Robert Moses). It’s riveting and reads like a novel.

The Path to Power, the first volume of the LBJ series, opens with a lengthy overview of the Texas Hill Country landscape, including three pages dedicated solely to describing the wild grasses of the region. It’s captivating and sets the tone for the entire series.

Today we are releasing the mostly complete agenda for CMEpalooza Fall 2025 (Wednesday, October 22.) As usual, we have designed CMEpalooza with the same spiritual essence as a Robert Caro book: to be both informative and entertaining. Our goal is to take topics that, while important, can also be a bit dry if not presented appropriately and turn them into and enjoyable educational experiences for everyone.

You will see some of the standard topics on the agenda – accreditation standards, grant review, outcomes assessment, etc. – though all with a unique ‘Palooza spin. But you will also see some newer topics that we are featuring for the first time, such as social listening and utilizing circadian rhythm science in educational event planning. We’re happy with the blend of sessions and hope you will be too. And if you’re not, blame Scott.

We still have some pending information for a couple of the sessions and will be making updates over the next few weeks. For now, take a few minutes to peruse the agenda, block off your calendar for Wednesday, October 22, and enjoy the remaining weeks of summer!

Click here for the CMEpalooza Fall 2025 agenda!

Another Thrilling CMEpalooza Archive Update


It has been brought to my attention that my most recent blog entry, which I posted last Friday, was perhaps ill-timed considering that it was both a Friday and a national holiday. I acknowledge that the number of people excited to spend a portion of their day off reading a CMEpalooza-centric Declaration of Independence parody is likely minimal. However, I would argue that if one were to write a CMEpalooza-centric Declaration of Independence parody, the only day it should be posted is July 4. I regret nothing.

Furthermore, it has also been brought to my attention that there has been disagreement, if not outright disapproval, with some of the “additional” self-evident truths included at the end of the post. Apparently, there are some who believe that pineapple should be on pizza. There are some who think that David Lee Roth leaving Van Halen was not the nadir of civil society. There are even some who prefer more jelly than peanut butter on their PB&J. Heathens all. Once again, I regret nothing. In fact, here are a few more truths we hold to be self-evident, even though they have little to do with CMEpalooza:

  • That dark chocolate is the best chocolate and white chocolate should be permanently banned
  • That every college dorm room in the U.S. in the fall of 1991 was required to contain at least one (1) copy of Pearl Jam’s album Ten
  • That the Wicked Witch of the West from the original Wizard of Oz still scares the everloving crap out of us
  • That Frank Sinatra was the coolest
  • That Charles in Charge was the worst show with the best theme song (note from Scott: I usually just shake my heads when Derek makes bold proclamations like this, but I must interject here, especially since Derek will soon lambast a different cast change. Charles in Charge actually dumped basically 75% of the cast after its first failed season since the original family was awful, with a very circumspect explanation of why a new family in the same house also needed a ‘manny.’ The second cast was much, much better and many episodes were entertaining. It was certainly a better show than Saved by the Bell, among others).
  • That Fruit Stripe was the best gum with the shortest flavor life
  • That if you were born in 1970, you were closer in time to the end of WWI (1918) than you were to today’s date
  • That, after season 3 of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, they swapped out one Aunt Viv for another Aunt Viv and tried to act like nothing happened, but we noticed. We noticed.
  • That Dumb & Dumber was robbed of a Best Picture award in the 1994 Academy Awards
  • That Prince’s performance at the 2007 Super Bowl was, is, and forever will be the greatest halftime show ever

Also, I updated the CMEpalooza archive with all the sessions from CMEpalooza Spring 2025. Whoopee.